Can Science Disprove Bible?

Hey! Here is a barrage of questions for unbelievers: Has science got all the answers? If so, What happens when ships and planes cross the Bermuda triangle? Where do they go? What about the Nazca lines of Peru? How do the quite heavy stones get drifted on the land and form lines? The crop circles? What is the right explanation for them? If scientists knew everything, why don’t they create another world?

Do scientists observe the world and then arrive at an explanation or do they know everything beforehand? Is carbon-14 dating really bang-on? Why can’t your scientists create a human out of nothing or in a more stricter sense, using nothing that has got life? Like stones, mud, air, water? Why can’t they build something as complex as an eye? Why can’t they quell a storm or a tornado before it destructs everything? Why can’t they bring a dead person back to life? Did not Newton who instituted science believe in God?

Are scientists capable of bringing new discoveries using their own prowess? Did they know what they were doing? Many of these were by sheer accident: Goodyear discovered vulcanized rubber by accident and it changed the whole scene of transportation; The very principle ships are afloat was found by accident by Archimedes; penicillin was discovered by Alexander Fleming or rather stumbled upon when cleaning his workstation- a strange fungus was found by him on his cultures; Henry Becquerel discovered uranium when the rock he left in the drawer imprinted itself on a photographic plate without being exposed to sunlight first- thus, radioactivity was born. These were very important inventions and discoveries that laid the foundation for modern age. 

My observation is that evolution needed a first cause. Science cannot create anything out of nothing, right? Even to this day, it cannot. Or doesn’t believe anyone can create. Many scientists say that in 200 years they’ll track extraterrestrial people in the galaxy or catch God and bring him to earth in 100 years. Also, according to scientists, the earth was cooling a few years back and now it is warming. This shows that science is still developing and hasn’t got all the answers. So, how do you believe to find answers or base your beliefs in something that is incomplete and in a developing state?

Spirituality like science is not to be understood by us humans. Supernatural is not proved but felt. Rather spirituality is to be experienced at an individual level. You can’t say Bible is false. Bible has many incidents and events that historians believe existed, thus upholding its veracity. There has been a clear consensus among them regarding this. The places mentioned in it are still found in the exact location. The culture of the people too mentioned in this ancient text is exact.

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbon-dating-gets-reset

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/31/us/errors-are-feared-in-carbon-dating.html

http://science.discovery.com/famous-scientists-discoveries/10-accidental-inventions.htm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v12/n3/sir-isaac-newton

http://www.greatdreams.com/ships.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

http://www.skepticalscience.com/neverending-daily-mail-nonsense.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolution-of-the-eye

The Bible: Myth or History?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_historical_existence_of_Jesus_Christ

http://vridar.org/2010/04/09/the-bible-says-it-biblical-historians-believe-it/

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23 thoughts on “Can Science Disprove Bible?

  1. God didn’t cure evil, therefore he does not exist.

    Science didn’t cure the tornado, so science must not exist.

    I’m just using the logic I learned from atheists to learn about the world I live in.

  2. Has science got all the answers?

    No.

    What happens when ships and planes cross the Bermuda triangle?

    They reach the other side. Contrary to the urban myth, the Bermuda triangle is not even among the 10 most dangerous waters for shipping and insurance companies do not charge higher premiums for shipping in this area.

    Where do they go?

    Normally, to their destination (air-)port.

    Do scientists observe the world and then arrive at an explanation or do they know everything beforehand?

    In a perfect world, all of them would, yes. Of course, this world is far from perfect, so sometimes they don’t. Of course, the advantage is science is, that there are millions of scientists out there who want to prove their colleagues wrong, thus finding contradictions, etc. rather quickly.

    Is carbon-14 dating really bang-on?

    Yep.

    Why can’t your scientists create a human out of nothing or in a more stricter sense, using nothing that has got life? Like stones, mud, air, water? Why can’t they build something as complex as an eye? Why can’t they quell a storm or a tornado before it destructs everything? Why can’t they bring a dead person back to life?

    Not there, yet. Why can’t we build a car that flies? Not there, yet. But don’t worry, they are trying and coming closer.

    Did not Newton who instituted science believe in God?

    Newton also believed in Alchemy and other nonsense, so personally, I wouldn’t go there.

    Are scientists capable of bringing new discoveries using their own prowess?

    Yep.

    Many of these were by sheer accident.

    True. But not even nearly “most”. Sometimes you have luck, but most of the time, it’s simply hard work.

    Many scientists say that in 200 years they’ll track extraterrestrial people in the galaxy or catch God and bring him to earth in 100 years.

    Please, show me a list.

    This shows that science is still developing and hasn’t got all the answers.

    Not having all the answers is what science is ABOUT. If we had all the answers, we wouldn’t need science. Science is about finding out where you have been wrong and getting it better.

    Spirituality like science is not to be understood by us humans. Supernatural is not proved but felt. Rather spirituality is to be experienced at an individual level.

    Honestly? “Science doesn’t know everything, thus flying unicorns do exist.”? Is THIS really your argument? Come one. Try harder, please. This is not even a challenge.

    You can’t say Bible is false.

    I can. It’s a self-contradictory mess.

    Bible has many incidents and events that historians believe existed, thus upholding its veracity.

    So does the Odyssey. I don’t see you starting worshiping Zeus… The unfortunate point is, that many of the important points of the bible are NOT shown somewhere else, thus it’s just that: A story.

    There has been a clear consensus among them regarding this. The places mentioned in it are still found in the exact location.

    Ok. “I once was in New York and I am god.” So, we both know, that New York REALLY exists, so… GASP! THE REST MUST BE ALSO TRUE! Do you need my bank details for my 10% of your earnings?

    The culture of the people too mentioned in this ancient text is exact.

    Wow, a 2.000 year old test got the culture of people 2.000 years ago that was based on this text correct. SURPRISE!!!

    • 1. Why do scientists get inspired from surroundings? Do they lack creativity? How did you call Newton nonsense? He is a luminary in science. He formulated everything about gravitation. Many scientists were of the opinion a few years back that the earth is actually cooling, as of now it is warming. What is your opinion on this? The continental drift hypothesis can take the form of Tokyo drift in the near future. Is this not possible? Does this show science is developing?
      What is science actually trying to prove? Does it wants to be beneficial to humanity? The Carbon-14 dating is not absolutely bang-on. There are flaws in it. Many scientists cannot arrive at an opinion regarding the exact date of the artifact, ‘Shroud of Turin’. How are you so sure about everything you tell? I can provide you the sources, references and links to uphold these facts. You know, I am a writer and doing this research work is not profitable to me. It can be a daunting task. Is it worth all the effort? If this article attracts a vehement response from you, do reply.
      P.S.: Ships and planes do not safely cross the Bermuda triangle; Carbon-14 dating is not of precision quality; The Greek text you mentioned is termed as mythology by historians. Thus, your argument is not plausible. Please double-check. I have many projects to attend to- can’t even take a breather.

  3. Why do scientists get inspired from surroundings? Do they lack creativity?

    What a strange question. It is a bad thing to be inspired? Since when?

    When is a person called dead? When his heart stops?

    “Brain death is the irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation.”

    What makes him different from people who are alive?

    Obviously the lack of brain activity.

    Then, how are clinically dead persons resuscitated via CPR in a jiffy?

    Not brain-dead people.

    How did you call Newton nonsense? He is a luminary in science. He invented everything about gravitation.

    Read it again. I mentioned that Newton believed some nonsense, including alchemy. And he didn’t “invent gravitation”, as gravity was already there before. He just formulated the laws of motion and universal gravitation.

    Many scientists were of the opinion a few years back that the earth is actually cooling, as of now it is warming. What is your opinion on this?

    Global warming seems pretty likely, but what does my opinion count. Science is not a democracy, it’s not a question what the majority believes.

    The continental drift hypothesis can take the form of Tokyo drift in the near future. Is this not possible? Does this show science is developing?

    Honestly… What the fuck are you talking about? Are you on drugs right now? The posting started out a little bit weird, but now I’m really asking myself if you’re stoned…

    What is science actually trying to prove?

    Everything.

    Does it wants to be beneficial to humanity?

    Science is a concept. Scientists want to be beneficial to humanity sometimes. After are just plain curious. Others are in for the money. Scientists are people, after all.

    The Carbon-14 dating is not absolutely bang-on. There are flaws in it. Many scientists cannot arrive at an opinion regarding the exact date of the artifact, ‘Shroud of Turin’.

    There are many contaminations in the shroud, which makes the result unclear, as the contaminations are of a different age than the shroud itself. But yes, as soon as Christians get involved, wishfull thinking always becomes an important factor.

    Ships and planes do not safely cross the Bermuda triangle;

    They do. All the time. Day by day.

    The Greek text you mentioned is termed as mythology by historians.

    As is the bible. Thank you for playing.

    Thus, your argument is not plausible.

    What you wanted to say is, that my premise is wrong. But as it is true, that’s nonsense.

    Please. Don’t do drugs. It’s bad for you. Thank you.

    • Dear Atomic mutant,
      2. I know that Newton discovered gravitation. Do you know what would have happened if he didn’t bring it to the world? Satellites and television would not have been there; people through cartography would not have benefited from mineral reserves in their country; space exploration would not have picked up. So you take it away from Newton?
      3. Global cooling is now global warming. So, you want to base your beliefs on something that is incomplete and always changing ground like science?
      4. Regarding Carbon-14 dating, do you know what is the result of this observation? The existence of Jurassic era and other finds of palaeontology are false. Please do some reading. It is not right to kill people just by reading the headline.
      5. Bermuda thing that I mentioned is absolutely right.
      6. You called Bible mythology? Bible is not a myth. Historians believe this. Do you want to listen or simply not?
      7. Please co-operate. This is supposed to be a healthy debate. Don’t f**k and do d**gs. The first thing is for the dogs.
      Please do some reading, get your facts straight and then reply. I think you don’t want to believe. Voluntary feelings cannot be tamed by others.
      By the way, I am a teetotaler.

      • Sorry, but I am not here to fill the gaps in your education. That is your job. Please do at least a basic Google search before trying to discuss this topic, ok? Otherwise you are just making a complete fool out of yourself by somehow connection necrosis and coma, as you obviously don’t have a clue what the word actually MEANS.

        Additionally, please learn to read. I won’t comment on any strawmen you put up, even if I suspect that this doesn’t happen deliberately but is only a consequence of your lack in reading comprehension skills, which leads to you not even getting what I am saying.

        Before insisting that something is “right”, read the facts. Again, you are only making a fool out of yourself by taking the side of urban mythology. Sorry, but you obviously don’t have a clue what science is. You obviously want to believe urban myths no matter what the facts are – ignoring it when someone is telling you differently. This is no basis for a discussion. If I want a discussion on this level, I will talk to an audio recording of “But I am right.” on repeat.

  4. I understand what you say about the Bible. The Bible is not a self-contradictory mess. The people who found 144,000 errors and contradictions in the Bible should know that every verse was written for specific communities in the Bible. For example, in one verse it says that not to judge others and in another place, people will be given power to judge even the angels. The latter was for people in authority and the former was for commoners. What would the world come down to if people in authority never judged anyone?

  5. Dear mutant,
    Ok dude, brain death is death. Vegetative state means that there is very less brain activity. Nearly brain death to common man. So, what about my other points? Strawmen and scarecrows- Which of these do not appeal to you?

  6. If you don’t want to believe, please spare me the scathing attack of the lascivious type. Please do it somewhere else. I won’t provide you the links and sources as I am not paid to write this for you. My blog is not about atheism, but about people. Only this post talks about atheism. I can post my view on my blog. Is it okay?

  7. Dear Atomic Mutant,
    Please answer my other questions. Why was the earth cooling a few years back and now it is warming? Please answer all the questions listed too. I made the extra effort of checking the information and citing the references putting aside a lot of productive work. Do you find the work challenging enough now? The Wikipedia link says that Bible is more reliable than Homer. If scientists do not represent science, who is accountable? Republicans? All the facts are enlisted in the references. Observe them.

  8. Hey! Now I will get a bit derisive. How do you think you can fill gaps in people’s education when you say ‘you and science are not there yet.’ Why can’t you say, ‘ Science will find a connection between God and itself in 600 years?’ or in this context the previous line in quotes? Why is that? Atomic mutant has escaped my presence.

  9. Science does not yet have answers to all your questions. This does not mean that science has no answers. What you claim that your god has done you have no evidence for. You have no credible evidence for the existence of a god, nevermind your god. Faith does not provide new information – science does. When the two are compared, science is by far the better way to know how the world around us works.

    Trying to discredit science by pretending an invisible being created the universe is just that – pretending. What you claim has no credible evidence and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A claim that is made with no evidence can be dismissed with the same amount of evidence.

    Scientific discoveries, whether by accident or purpose (higgs boson) are still discoveries about the world around us and constitute information that faith and religion would never give us. Comparing the two in the manner you have is a fool’s game.

    • I have provided scientific evidence as references for all the questions and information in the article. Yet you say there is no credible evidence? Please read the last link about historians. So you believe all the important scientific discoveries that changed the world were accidental?

  10. No, and I said that not all discoveries are accidental.
    You have no credible evidence for the claims made in the christian bible. Dan Brown writes novels that include real places and real historical names but they’re still works of fiction. A little history about Jeruselum does not make the entire book 100% truth. Such thinking is foolish.

    If there was credible proof of the miracle working Jesus or the creator god you would not have written this post. Think about it.

    • The accidental discovery of hardening of rubber just changed the whole world. Imagine a life without this or more precisely, the wheel. Radioactivity too changed the world; Archimedes principle paved the way for mass transportation of freight through ships.
      As for your other question, do you or science feel equipped to answer the existence of the intellectually superior God? Then answer all the questions to prove it. I mean, see the wisdom of God in things around you. You plagiarize his work. Why can’t science build a thing as complex as an eye?

      • First, prove that your god is intellectually superior. Stop making assertions that have no evidence whatsoever.

        I do not see the wisdom of a god in the things around me. That’s your wishful thinking playing tricks on your mind.

        Prove that the world around us is the work of your god. Stop making assertions for which you have no credible evidence or proof.

        That word complex, I don’t think it means what you think it does. Have you had a look at information about the large Hadron Collider? It’s a bit more complex than a human eye.

        What amazes me here is that you think the eye is irreducibly complex, right? It’s not irreducibly complex and this has been demonstrated over and over again. You are just too foolish to listen.

  11. You yourself said that science does not have all the answers. And even if there is an answer about God or his existence or him being intellectually superior, what is the guarantee that it cannot change like it did in the ‘global cooling’ case? You mean I have to provide scientific proof, even if science does not have all the answers? I have supported all the things in the article with references. With eye being complex, I mean that science is not there yet in building it. And also, it is not there yet in proving God exists.
    Supernatural is to be felt or experienced at an individual level. God chooses to reveal himself to those who humble themselves and seek for him. It is his personal wish to reveal himself or not.

  12. @Atomic Mutant, come again! Please witness your carbon-14 dating blunder with your own eyes. I have provided the link. And I know the difference between ‘inventing’ and ‘discovering’. It is just a high school concept. You need to be a qualified critic to criticize. Are you some petty school topper? Are you in the real world? Please answer as you know I won’t hurt you.

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  14. True religion and and science should not and do not contradict each other.
    This “science against religion” concept is relatively new and mainly a product of biblical literalist evangelical churches and the r/atheism type of atheists.
    The Catholic church was at the forefront of scientific discovery and education till recently.

  15. 159 Faith and science: “Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth.” 37 “Consequently, methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are.”

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